Wednesday, April 25, 2012

M suites

Has anyone stayed in the new M suites at Harrahs? I called to check on rates for our December visit and was told they cannot be reserved at this time-they are being given out by hosts.





They look interesting.





M suites


I drive by them every time Im in town every few weeks. last week being the most recent and I didnt think they were open yet? Are they?





The location on Las Vegas Blvd/St Rose Prkwy is a pretty isolated area so anything you%26#39;d want to do outside of your hotel would require you get in a car and drive.



M suites


sorry confused with:





Marnell Architecture is currently developing their own casino-resort, the M Resort (with the help of MGM MIRAGE), which is located on approximately 90-acres at the southeast corner of Las Vegas Boulevard and St. Rose Parkway (about 8.5 miles south of Mandalay Bay). Actually, the resort is being built in the only area of Henderson that touches the south-strip. For the location, see the bottom of the South Map.





The M Resort-Spa-Casino will be a classy, $1-billion addition to Las Vegas with; a 390-room tower, 35 suites, 92,000 sq. ft. of casino area, a 60,000-sq. ft. conference room, a 23,000-sq.-ft. health spa and salon, eight restaurants, four bars, one entertainment venue, retail outlets, a 100,000-sq.-ft. pool area, a 63,000-sq.-ft. movie entertainment theatre with 14 screens, and other five-star amenities.





Marnell expects a spring 2009 openin




Ashe, thanks so much for mentioning those M Suites at Harrahs! They are gorgeous! Wow, it sure would be nice to get set up in one of these, wouldnt it?





They can be seen at www.harrahs.com





Here%26#39;s a short description:





New at Harrah%26#39;s® Las Vegas are the M suites that combine the comfort of home with the excitement for which the Las Vegas Strip is renowned.





Designed by Kurstin Schmidt and Urbane Design Associates, these stunning suites are appointed to reflect a luxury residential feel, with modern color schemes, accent walls and brushed nickel finishes.





The M suites’ impressive array of amenities includes 42” LCD TVs by LG in each bedroom and living room, Bang %26amp; Olufson phones, Denon micro-system stereos, marble bathrooms with oversized jetted tubs, custom bedding, plush microfiber robes and slippers, mini-bars, refrigerators and coffeemakers. We’ve truly thought of everything!




Carolina, I am crossing my fingers. DH and I are both Diamond players and have a host, so maybe we will get lucky.





I%26#39;m not sure what the criteria is for getting one of these suites.




They just opened those M suites. Probably about 3 weeks ago. They look like they%26#39;re furnished with stuff from Target (I%26#39;m sure most high end hotels are furnished with cheap stuff ::cough:: Venetian). But nice for Harrah%26#39;s none the less.




With both of You having Diamond cards, and a Harrahs Host, I would think You would fall into the category of getting one! :) Please keep me updated and let me know what You thought of the M Suite.





Let me ask You something.. Do You use the same Host to do all your HET Vegas properties? I have a Host at Flamingo and another one over at Caesars, but its my understanding that One Host can do All. I just like having a Host on each property, but with the lack of response/service from the gal over at Caesars, I%26#39;m beginning to think I will let the Flamingo Host take care of any bookings anywhere else.





I havent stayed at Harrahs (in yrs anyway), its time to give them another look, I think. :) Would You recommend that I get a separate Host at Harrahs if we decide to stay there in the future?




Our host at Caesars was terrible-totally unresponsive. I%26#39;m not real crazy about Caesars anyway, even though the Augustus tower rooms are very nice. We have a host at Flamingo who is really good. We have not used this host at Harrahs before. I%26#39;ll let you know how it goes. He sent us emails and snail mails asking us to come to Harrahs and pretty much promising the world. We%26#39;ll see.





Our host at Flamingo did get us a comped Go mini suite complete with a welcome basket. All requests were handled promptly and to our complete satisfaction. I really liked the room but my husband did not.





Our original reservations this year were in the Augustus tower but we moved to Harrahs to take advantage of Garth Brooks. To stay at Caesars would have meant a standard room and I%26#39;m not willing to take that chance. Our Harrahs host did guarentee us a suite there at least. I really like Harrahs so all will be well.




Hey Ashe!





Ive had 2 different hosts now at Caesars, and both were terrible! I just will book my own offers and rooms from here on out over there, (or just call the Flamingo Host if I need to). Right now Ive got so many Reward Credits built up, its my understanding they cant comp you anything really until those are depleted. But, Ive never asked.





I didnt even have a Host at Flamingo, but I guess She must have checked on Diamond Members staying there during Jimmy Buffett Concert offer, and when I arrived there was the most gorgeous and generous tower of gift boxed treats, and snacks. Smart move on her part, now she will get my biz. :)





Regarding the rooms that are blocked for a Concert Offer. When I went online to book Garth, and chose Flamingo, it brought up the deluxe room, yet a call to My host and She was able to put me in a Go Strip View no problem. I was told that typically Marketing will attach the standard rooms to any Concert offer, but the Host can go in and put You in to the room of your choice. I am wondering if the Host You called, could have set You up in the Augustus Tower with the Garth Offer? Just food for thought....





I would love to check out and stay/play Harrahs sometime! The only HET properties Ive stayed at recently (last year and current year) are Caesars and Flamingo. Couple of yrs back would stay some at Paris, been forever since I stayed at Rio, I am looking for more variety with The Harrahs brands, looking forward to what You think about staying at Harrahs. :)





Oh, over the Weekend, I wrote my Flamingo Host about why I get so many more offers that are individual property specific at Caesars versus just mainly the universal ones for Flamingo that give you the choice of stay at any of the Vegas properties on an offer. She said that beginning the first of the Year, that Marketing will be changing the way they do offers. No more property specific offers, all offers will be universal, your choice of any property for a room stay (and Concerts, and the other perks that go along with rooms). Interesting!




I would think that the M Suite would go to 7 Stars then high Diamonds. I have no idea how many 7 Stars stay at Harrahs. I%26#39;m guessing most would stay at CP and Paris. If at the 40K and above tier level, I think, probably. But I over think everything :%26gt;)





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Malebird, I would venture to say, thats about right. :) Need to look again to see how many of those M Suites (if it even says) that Harrahs now has.

NYNY or Paris?

If you can stay at New York New York or Paris for the same rate, which would you choose?



NYNY or Paris?


I would personally choose Paris. Great central location and a step up in class compared to NYNY.





What works for me may not be so good for you however. If I was in my 20s and wanted a fun party vibe then I would lean towards NYNY out of these two options. Be aware that if it%26#39;s going to be pool weather and a good pool is a big deal for you then neither of these would be a great choice.



NYNY or Paris?


I would choose Paris. I like the hotel, casino, restaurant choices and location better.




If it was my choice, I%26#39;d pick Paris. I like the location and casino better.




Stay and gamble at Paris but eat at NYNY..



I like Gonzalez Y Gonzalez and II Fornaio.




PARIS...everything about it is better!!




The pool is not a concern.





I have previously stayed at New York New York and liked it for the most part. I usually enjoy the active vibe, but at times wouldn%26#39;t mind it toning down a bit.





Although I have not stayed at Paris, I have stayed at Bally%26#39;s so I am pretty familiar with it. I am a bit concerned by the recent negative reviews about Paris, which seem to feel it has recently slipped in quality.




I%26#39;ll go against the majority here, I%26#39;ll get comped rooms at NY/NY and Paris and give the room at Paris to my daughter. Why? Some won%26#39;t believe but Paris slots suck, IMO staff is rude (guess what your not in the same class as Wynn, Belaggio and other high-end). NY/NY much more friendler and great bars, restuarants and great service. Paris has location but that is about it.





How old are you - Paris older crowd, NY/NY 20-40




I am in my late 30s, so I am at the end of what you consider to be the NYNY crowd. I have met people of all ages playing there, although I agree it tends to be younger.





I don%26#39;t see a huge difference in location since it is a brief walk between the two properties, especially in nice weather.





I play table games and have had some great dealers at NYNY as well as some with the personality of a doorknob. I like the restaurants at NYNY since they are casual yet decent quality and variety.





It%26#39;s been a few years since I played at Bally%26#39;s and Paris so I don%26#39;t remember the atmosphere all that well.




I like NY NY much better but that%26#39;s me. I think Paris is a nicer hotel in general but I don%26#39;t care for the vibe.





While I like NY NY, I would never pay full price for a room. For even money, Paris is probably the better choice.




It%26#39;s even money, but it%26#39;s well below full price. Both are more than partially comped.

Less than 8 hours before going to Vegas!!!!!

Been planning this trip for almost 4 months!! Extremely ecstatic!!! 3rd time, but first time with companion. But always on the edge of excitement-peeing! LOL



Less than 8 hours before going to Vegas!!!!!


Awww, I%26#39;m very happy for you! :) I%26#39;ve done Vegas solo, with companion and with lots of people. They%26#39;re all fun! Enjoy!



Less than 8 hours before going to Vegas!!!!!


have fun!




And, after 4 long months the wait is finally over. Man oh Man, do I ever know the excitement Youre experiencing right now! Have a wonderful time, Youre all psyched up and ready to go!





Have a blast! And, if You feel like Youre gonna burst with excitement, go ahead and share the plans with Us. :)


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  • nightlife 50 somethings...

    hey guys for SOME reason ive been put in charge for planning things to do on our upcoming vaca so i could use some help. My boyfriend and I are meeting his parents for vacation in March...theyre coming from puerto rico were coming from New York. His parents LOVE to drink and dance but im wondering wheres a place they can enjoy at nighttime? I am 29 and i%26#39;m sort of over the hip club scene so any help would be appreciated since my boyfriend is sort of putting this all on me!!! thanks in advance guys!



    nightlife 50 somethings...


    You didn%26#39;t say where you are staying, but most of the big hotel/casinos on the strip have bars that have live bands in the evenings. They play a lot of 70%26#39;s-80%26#39;s type dance music. Can%26#39;t actually give you the names of them though, although I am sure someone can!



    nightlife 50 somethings...


    I%26#39;m sorry we%26#39;re staying at the MGM




    bump....please?lol




    On a weeknight, I%26#39;d recommend VooDoo Lounge. Everyone will love the view from atop the Rio no matter their age, and it will have a more diverse crowd in terms of age and won%26#39;t be so packed with younglings as it would be on a weekend. They used to do a salsa night on Mondays if that%26#39;s something your in-laws would enjoy.




    thanks that is something they would enjoy!




    Usually good dance bands in the lounge at Bally%26#39;s.

    Vegas! The Palazzo 11/14-11/16 Trip Report

    Day 1:

    5:30pm! Finally! I can leave the office and head to the GF%26#39;s house where in exactly 1 hour we will be picked up and taken to the airport to start our vacation. 6:30pm rolls around and there is no sedan. Frantically dial the company and were told we don%26#39;t have a reservation but not to worry as someone will be there in 10 minutes. Arrive at the airport and breeze through security...oh no! Our flight is delayed 15 minutes. We start lining up and the gate agent tells us over the intercom if we are not loaded in 15 minutes we will be grounded for 2 hours. I have never seen so many motivated people in my life. Make it to Vegas without a hitch. Coming down the escalator to look for our limo driver and there is no sign. We arrive 10 minutes late so this should have been ample time as there were many other limo drivers that made it there on time. Finally get a hold of our driver who arrived 15 minutes after we did and he told us we picked a busy time. I didn%26#39;t really care and enjoyed the ride to the Palazzo with a glass of champagne.

    Ahhh the Palazzo, my home away from home...oh geez now I smell that smell so many complain about...I have never smelled it before in my previous trips but now I know people don%26#39;t like it, it heightened my awareness of it. The GF noticed it immediately. I proceed to invited guest check in where a couple in front of us are clearly displeased. I proceed to the counter with my Amex card and ID in hand. Mimi tells me in order to accommodate all the guests checking in that I will need to be moved to the Venetian. I disagree and allow her to know I will be staying at the Palazzo and if I wanted the Venetian I would have booked the Venetian with my host. I said if you intend on moving me to the Venetian I expect a large upgrade...';I%26#39;m sorry sir but you can have a strip view.'; Keeping my cool I said you should probably work a little harder on finding me a room in the Palazzo then. Magically she finds one albeit with 2 queen beds...I didn%26#39;t care because I wanted the Palazzo over the Venetian. Finally make our way to our room without a further hitch, get changed and head to the lounge.

    We were on the list for Lavo but the GF just got a new license and had not received it yet. Her old one was hole punched and therefore invalidated but she also had the slip they gave her that said she had a valid license...in my experience clubs won%26#39;t let you in with a punched license even with the piece of paper. We decide not to even bother. $26 bucks for two drinks...ouch! Prices have gone up since May and August. Head over to Players Club Grazzie to get my $200 in promo credit for the slots so the GF can have a little fun. We played for about 30 minutes and walked away with $262 bucks! I%26#39;ve gone some fresh $100 bills burning to hit the blackjack table. Win a quick $300 and then we head over to the Venetian to check out the lounge over there. Much livelier! A good size crowd and people dancing. Buy a couple more drinks for $30 w/ tip...come on we aren%26#39;t in a club this is ridiculous. At least they are strong. Head over to the Mirage to the Love Lounge and it is dead..hang out and have a drink and head back to the Venetian. Decide to take a break head up stairs for a bit. I take a shower (I hate smelling like smoke) and we nap for a bit. We head down around 3:30am to have my favorite drunk food in the world! The Grand Luxe Cafe BREAKFAST SANDWICH. These delightful sandwiches are the best thing since sliced bread and they do indeed contained sliced bread! Eggs, tomato, bacon, ham, swiss cheese...omg amazing. ($25 w/ tip) Play some more blackjack and all of a sudden we are up $1500 for the trip. We made a deal that if we made $1000 we would just go shopping with the money. We call it an evening with full stomachs and a full wallet.

    Day 2:

    We wake up at 10:30am...woo 4 hours of sleep that has to be some kind of record for Vegas. Get ready and head down to find a restaurant. I like having no set destination. We walk by Sushi Samba and decide sushi sounds really good. I would identify myself as being a sushi connoisseur and while it was ok Sushi it didn%26#39;t really blow me away. It was above average but I have had much better. ($55 w/ tip) We head over to fashion show mall and then other various malls around Vegas. Make it back to the room around 6:45. We have dinner reservations at Zeffrino for 7:30pm. We have a $100 dining credit to the restaurant. It%26#39;s a nice restaurant with first class service. We decide on a bottle of Louis M. Martine 2006 from Napa. It%26#39;s a good wine and decently priced (although very marked up from what you would find at the store) We start with the fried calamari. I wasn%26#39;t expecting a giant squid but it%26#39;s what we got...the plate was huge! I had the potato soup which was good but the taste was reminiscent of asparagus. GF had the meditterainian sea bass and I had the linguine with crab, lobster and shrimp. Once again a huge portion. It was very good lots of shrimp crab and lobster. ($204 w/ tip). We head over to the Mirage to catch the 10pm show of Love. The GF is very excited about the show since she loves the Beatles. Before the show I donate $500 to the mirage... you are welcome MGM! We bought Orange Presses prior to the show but I think we were both over drinking at that point. (We had a lot of whiskey on my birthday which was Wednesday and I don%26#39;t think it had completely drained from our system yet). The show begins and it was awesome! Seriously a fantastic show. Towards the end of the show I get a big headache so we head back to the room and I get some Tylenol and close my eyes. We ended up just staying in the room that night.

    Day 3:

    We both get up around 8:10am. I head down while the GF is getting ready to talk to a host about late check out. No probably we have our check out changed to 1:00pm. I start gambling and I%26#39;m down another $400...geez. I switch tables and promptly earn back my $400 deficit and the $500 the night before and I%26#39;m up another $300. I tell the GF of my winnings and we head out the door to the Wynn Brunch Buffet around 9:30am. It%26#39;s pricey ($60 for the both of us.) The brunch is very good though. I typically don%26#39;t like buffets since I tend not to eat a lot and I would rather spend the same amount on a nice meal. Very good though and if you like buffets the Wynn is very good.

    We finished around 10:15 and head back to the casino to let the GF play some slots. Played $1 Wheel of Fortune hit 3 spins for $25, $25, and $30 and then lost the $100. I tell her if we win $200 in blackjack we will go play the $5 dollar WOF machine. Quickly win $200 to offset the loss and gain $100. Quickly get a spin and win $200. Play the rest of our $100 and then cash out for $200. Go back to the tables and played next to another guy from San Diego. End up another $500. Woo! Finally a good solid winning trip. $2500 up and no tax forms in sight! Pack up the room and head to the airport. Sat about 20 minutes on the tarmac and we were back in San Diego by 3:30pm. Overall a fun trip!

    Vegas! The Palazzo 11/14-11/16 Trip Report

    ARRRR! COuld you please e-mail me some of your luck for my trip this weekend? :)

    Vegas! The Palazzo 11/14-11/16 Trip Report

    Also, with a screen name like that aren%26#39;t you obligated to see Sirens of TI?


    It used to be a cool show from what I remember but I haven%26#39;t had much desire to see the new one ever since they took the original Marquee down for Treasure Island and renamed it TI.


    Also a side note. Vegas seemed more crowded on this trip than any other trip. I also didn%26#39;t notice any lack of service for drinks or any other use (other than the front desk wanting to put me at the Venetian.)


    Pirates - did your GF notice the smell in the room itself or just the casino/hotel lobby?

    Some fantastic luck you had this trip, nicely done!


    I must be drunk everytime I go into the V, because I have never noticed the smell!!! I will make sure I am more aware this time.


    Hey Stratton, have a great trip to Vegas, wishing You bunches of luck!

    Pirates, thats a whirlwind of a Trip You had there, and congrats on the good luck. Sounds like You and the GF had a blast!

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  • Wynn/Encore Comps

    I leave for Vegas in a week and have two rooms comped at the Palazzo for 3 nights. I LOVED the P when I stayed there last year. The rooms are the perfect size for us (family of 3 w/ teenager) as they have the pullout couch.





    However, I am a little nervous about the financial state of the Venetian/Palazzo. Will the gambling be tighter? Is their a serious possibility of them closing up their doors soon? Has anyone stayed there recently - has the service gone downhill?





    I just visited the website for the Encore...and it looks amazing. I am wondering if I should spend time gambling next door at the Wynn on this trip so that I can get comped at the Encore in the future. What do you guys thing? And how much $ would I probably need to gamble to get comped at the Wynn/Encore? We mainly play VP.





    Thanks!



    Wynn/Encore Comps


    Relax have fun and enjoy your trip!!





    I will be staying at the V mid-December....(I am a worrier and am not worried that they are going to fold and go away).......if they do I will change my plans last minute :)





    I would keep my reservation if I were you.....I would also gamble a bit at the Wynn if you want some offers later on. You will have to be a higher roller to get comped at the Wynn though.....





    Enjoy your trip with your family!! Lea :)



    Wynn/Encore Comps


    We dropped somewhere in the neighborhood of $3k when we were at the P over the summer. We probably won%26#39;t be spending as much this trip though with the way the economy is going...yikes!





    They have taken good care of us at the P. For that kind of $, will we get the same at the Wynn? And does this kind of action warrant a ';host';? I am new at this comp thing.




    ';dropped?'; Bet in total? If you used a bankroll of $3000 or so, that would represent much more through a VP machine as you re-bet your wins etc. VP is comped at generally 1/2 the rate as slots and $3000 bankroll or ';dropped'; will not get much at Wynn especially over a several day period. Think $3000 into the machine several times over a couple days. Or think comped buffet.




    The amount of money you lose, is not necessarily the basis to earn comps.



    the generic basis for comps at table games is the $ bet a hand on how many hours you play. Usually a minimum of 4 hour basis. If you bet $100 a hand for an hour, might not get much of anything.





    On slot machines, they are looking at how much money goes thru the machine and the number of hours of play. You might lose $3000 in a few hours in slots or you might lose $300 in 12 hours of play and actually run $15,000 thru the machines. the casinos like to see lots of money in and out of slots.





    The casinos will also notice how many times a year you visit. If they think you are there once a year, they would favor a person who goes 4 times a year.





    Each casino has guidelines, but there is latitude and variations beyond your contral, like lousy business right now.





    What do I do? play a lot and if I am near even after 3 days. I quit playing at that point. so it looks like I ran a lot of money thru the machines.




    I would at least go next door to the Wynn and sign-up for their slot card(it%26#39;s called the red card) because you will then most likely get emailed room promotions from the Wynn even if you don%26#39;t drop a cent in their casino.




    To answer the OP%26#39;s actual questions:





    Will the gambling be tighter? There was a recent interview where Mr. Adelson indicated a slot hold somewhat higher than is typical. It could be a minor fluctuation, or indicate that LVS has actually reduced slot payouts. They have certainly removed all decent VP games.





    Is their a serious possibility of them closing up their doors soon? No.





    Has the service gone downhill? No evidence of this yet.





    We%26#39;re staying at the Venetian next week as well, though we will not gamble there much, if any, since we are also VP players.





    Don%26#39;t worry about LVS%26#39;s financial state - even if they should become in technical default of some of their finance covenants, they certainly would not shut down their source of income. At worst, future plans will be trimmed back (have been in fact, e.g. the condo tower, plans in Macau) and, as you%26#39;ve seen decent games will vanish.





    Good Luck!






    i totally agree with BRIDGEMAN



    as forLT LISTNERFI betting 25 cent vp and then $200 plus blackjack.I will be there last week nov will be picked up limo from wynns plus salon suite rfb and you dont get that kind of comps jumping from 25 cents slots to $ 200 tables




    I have doubts that they are reprogramming machnes, but rather yanking machines out and replacing them with tighter machines. But maybe, the machines they remove from service do get tightened then placed on the floor again. like converting 9/6 machines to 8/5.





    But,,,,, when people do not win, and see no one else winning, they tend to leave fast and not return to that casino.





    I wonder how many thousand players avoid the harrahs joints with 6/5 blackjack for that reason.

    Treasure Island - Questions

    Hi,





    Will be at the TI in 9 days and would like to know what do you like or dislike from Treasure Island.





    Any slot machine you would recommend?





    Thanks!



    Treasure Island - Questions


    Love the 2 cent machines right between the elevators and the steakhouse. Blazing 7%26#39;s and black and white 7%26#39;s. My sil has hit the top jackpot there 3 trips in a row.



    Treasure Island - Questions


    I like the decor of the rooms, the location, the size, and the service. I don%26#39;t like the smokiness of the casino, the look and feel of the casino, and the Sirens. I%26#39;ve had good meals at both Isla and Kahunaville.




    We%26#39;ve stayed there and had a nice time. The room was nice and had a great view. No problems.




    Red, White and Blue $1 machine by the Monopoly Bank (by the Bar around the Buffet) was wonderful -- we were playing our $250 in free play and hit for $3,600 -- and an hour before leaving so went home up for a change! Also a 2 cent slotto game with a bubble in the middle of it by the watch shop -- hit $1,000 each day...helped with DH and my bankroll that trip!






    Wow! thanks a lot for all the info ... can%26#39;t wait to go. I think I will not be able to sleep, I am so excited! Thanks!




    We really liked the quiet rooms and comfy beds. Mystere is a great show. The whole place has nice vibe. I didn%26#39;t like the ';Sirens of TI'; show. That%26#39;s 15 minutes of my life I can never get back. Also I didn%26#39;t care much for having a strip-view room as you get to hear the cannons from the show regularly until after 11:30. Ear plugs helped.





    I liked the progressive machines that are to the left of the guest elevators and in the back corner. I just kept winning on them....until I lost :(




    Definitely go to Isla, great food. Avoid Kahunaville. I don%26#39;t play slots, but had good luck and great dealers on the blacjack table just outside the high roller area during the weekdays.





    Have a great time!




    Oh boy, TI is one of our favorites. The location is great, there is a lot around there, in all directions. When you check in they will probably give you a little packet with some coupons, one of them will be a 7.99 bkfst at Kahunaville, which is decent and reasonably priced, just know that any drinks, coffee, milk, oj, will run up the bill like 3.50 or so for each drink,so I usually order water, (because I am cheap) but its%26#39; what I like! Lets%26#39; see, their beds are absolutely wonderful, and they redid their rooms and are very comforting. Sometimes I go to Canters real late at night and order a corn beef for the morning, cause they don%26#39;t open till 11 am but I keep it chilled real good back in the room so I can have it for bkfst. They have lot%26#39;s of different games, however I did just find out that they took out their W O Z and W O F machines...so I%26#39;ll have to try to get over that,,,The tram is a plus, to get you quickly over to Mirage, and Harrahs across the street etc. We have eaten at their Steakhouse once, and it is reasonably priced (by LV standars)and it was good.




    I made the mistake of eating the 7.99 bkft special at Kahaunaville once and got nailed on the coffee and oj. The Buffet breakfast is less expensive than $4 oj and 3.50 coffee. and it took forever to get breakfast served at K.




    Oh no, I was looking forward to the W of O slot machines ... :(





    Where I live there is an Indian Casino and the few times I have gone there ... the W of O slots are always busy, have never been able to play on them.





    sniff, sniff, sniff,